First 2008 Presidential Debate: McCain & Obama on Lessons from Iraq



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Wall Street hijacked the first presidential debate Friday night between Democratic Sen. Barack Obama and Republican Sen. John McCain, who clashed over tax cuts, congressional spending and President Bush's proposed $700 billion bank bailout in a forum that was supposed to be about foreign policy.
The candidates skirmished over the war in Iraq, with McCain sticking to his support for Bushs troop surge last year and Obama repeating that he opposed the U.S. invasion all along. But the collapse of major financial institutions this month put foreign affairs — the stated topic of the first debate — firmly in the background as the men faced off at the University of Mississippi in Oxford.
Obama sought to tie McCain to the bank crisis, calling it a final verdict on eight years of failed economic policies promoted by George Bush, supported by Senator McCain.




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it's a hard call ... ( 2 months ago by IrishAmerican888)
it's a hard call because who ever went in Guantanamo, even if they were innocent, will most likely hate the US if they didn't already which could simply put more terrorists out there.
So it is ok to ... ( 2 months ago by obama4sure)
So it is ok to torture someone who is innocent until proven guilty! It is sick fucks like you Irish, that should move the fuck out of this country. Proud American's believe that it is not cool to torture. Go back to Ireland and drown in your beer!
I understand that ... ( 2 months ago by VJnumber1)
I understand that once you make an innocent person crazy by mistake it is not easy to turn him loose to chop your head off. When I say "you", I mean "me" too, because this is all being done for "me & you" (dammit). 2 wrongs don't make a right, and I would rather go into exile than be a monster.When they say you should not throw the baby out with the bathwater..the "bathwater" is torture...the "baby" is freedom and justice.
PS Mr. ... ( 2 months ago by VJnumber1)
PS Mr. IrishAmerican, I knew somebody working in Guantanamo who was trying to blow the whistle, and that person ended up having to run and hide to escape being tortured themselves...just like what is going on in China right now with decent citizens trying to clean up the poison milk mess who get punished by their officials who want to control using corrupt short cuts.HONOR is under fire from every corner including our own.
and yet i'm still ... ( 2 months ago by IrishAmerican888)
and yet i'm still proud to be an American.
I take pride in ... ( 2 months ago by VJnumber1)
I take pride in being a part of the melting pot of cultures that came to America. We are the country made of immigrants, and the country has hidden talents it has not learned to use yet.
never once did i ... ( 2 months ago by IrishAmerican888)
never once did i say i support torture. only a coward would have someone restrained so they can torture them. so fuck you and stop twisting my word, but i guess thats what you liberals are good at.
i have nothing ... ( 2 months ago by IrishAmerican888)
i have nothing against legal immigrants, it's illegal ones i don't like. they should go through the same process as everyone else. the worst idea ever was thinking that making tons of illegal immigrants legal, like that would fix the problem. also a high percentage of illegal immigrants from Mexico and Central America become involved or are already involved in "gang activity", and if they don't their children have a greater chance of joining because they grow up in high crime neighborhoods.
many of those gang ... ( 2 months ago by IrishAmerican888)
many of those gang members end up in prison and we have to pay to feed and house them.
I am very happy to ... ( 2 months ago by VJnumber1)
I am very happy to hear you are not in support of torture, I respect that position and there are a lot of people in position of power who lack that courage of conviction. There is just so much we can say in these little boxes, but your idea of liberal and conservative is about as useful as a weather vane made out of ice cream.
well it depends on ... ( 2 months ago by IrishAmerican888)
well it depends on what kind of ice cream, some would be worth wasting. and believe it or no but i wish we could get rid of the parties because it is tearing the US apart. however they play a huge roll in funding candidates so it would be nearly impossible to run an election.
Would you torture a ... ( 2 months ago by kowalski1993)
Would you torture a man to save 2? 10? 100? 1000?
No, because A.-you ... ( 2 months ago by VJnumber1)
No, because A.-you can't be certain you have the right man B.-You can't be certain to get correct info and C.-it would turn me or my decent soldiers into monsters.That is self-defeating. In ordinary life, if you panic & start hitting your head against the wall, which is the stage of solution-finding that is like self-torture, it is better to let somebody with a fresh view take over, because you will only make matters worse and hurt your head too.
One thing is scary ... ( 2 months ago by VJnumber1)
One thing is scary about many parties, it allows decent people with many fine distinctions to be overtaken by a band of lunatics who pool together and become more important.Mondialisation is here to stay, and so far, our government has no way for our democracy to interact. The "people" are out of the loop. Borders are gone and we need to have more benefits from that, not look for ways to plug a sieve, that's a waste of dough.1000000 per inch for a Mexican wall?What a joke.
I'm confused on how ... ( 1 month ago by OffCharacter)
I'm confused on how McCain knows what a president should do..as president. Considering it is in no way debatable that McCain HAS voted WITH BUSH 90% of the time, I would think he has absolutely no idea how the president should function.
he is just a ... ( 1 month ago by romashkin777)
he is just a fucking american doll!!
Obama voted WITH ... ( 1 month ago by BonusMoshPtI)
Obama voted WITH the stupid DEMOCRATS 96.4% of the time, and he's the candidate of CHANGE?
Give me a break
fuck obama , suck ... ( 1 month ago by imjohn007)
fuck obama , suck my dick black nigger .. fucking nigger. fucking muslim.he is an undercover muslim terrorist
wow the stupidity ... ( 1 month ago by Tyler47167yo)
wow the stupidity of some people amazes me..
'his skin is darker then me, why is that?! IDK but its different so im going to hate him for it!'
YOU are what is wrong with this world.... pathetic for lack of a better word.
lmfao wow ur a an ... ( 1 month ago by sportdude08)
lmfao wow ur a an idiot.
obama is bring ing ... ( 1 month ago by sportdude08)
obama is bring ing change and is pownding mccain every debate its time for anew change bitch
His charisma is ... ( 1 month ago by boyett5)
His charisma is something to worry about. Look at the history book about charismatic but infamous politicians and think about yourself if you are not affected by him before you vote
Non Partisan
WTF is there to win ... ( 1 month ago by DiscoUnicorn)
WTF is there to win in Iraq?! The "war on terrorism"/wmd was an epic fail. I feel sorry for those dead men and their families.
Obama is as ... ( 1 month ago by mimstersworld)
Obama is as American as it gets.
He represents change in the world and opportunity for the common man.
He brings hope to the people.
He shows us that anything is possible.


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