Carlos Kleiber -Beethoven symphony No.7, Op.92 : mov.2



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il mondo è pieno di ... ( 3 months ago by eriksatie9)
il mondo è pieno di sedicenti musicisti che non aspettano altro che l'occasione di poter dimostrare quanto è esagerato il loro ottuso virtuosismo, e che tengono concerti come il clown divino dio cui parla gould...ma kleiber era tutt'altra cosa. certo, beethoven ha composto questo capolavoro, ma kleiber era un Individuo dotato di personalità. e per citare ancora gould: "d'ora in avanti l'interprete dovrà, propriamente parlando, ricomporre la musica oppure cercarsi un altro mestiere".
I did not ... ( 3 months ago by zofla90)
I did not understand what you've said. I'm sure it is not a good thing about my comment given that I can link some words. However I would be glad to understand it, so if you could translate it
sorry, but my ... ( 3 months ago by eriksatie9)
sorry, but my english is very bad...I hope you'll understand.
the world is full of self-styled musician who only want to prove how exaggerated is their obtuse virtuosity, and they play in concert as the gould's divine clown (I mean that gould talks about this kind of "musicians"..)
but kleiber was different, he was a man with a own individuality, he tought that performers have to trascend (I don't know if it mean what I'm thinking about...) a score or if not they have to look up for a new job
I appreciate you ... ( 3 months ago by zofla90)
I appreciate you writing it in english (and its not bad). Well, I have to admit I have forgotten the matter in discuss, but I appreaciate your polight debating.
Je ne crois pas que ... ( 3 months ago by ver3919d5)
Je ne crois pas que Beethoven aurais pu imaginer toucher l'ame d'un Qcois a son époque..il vient de le faire en 2008 ..que de beauté!
This clip just ... ( 3 months ago by inshreds66)
This clip just shows what a genius Beethoven really was and is.
Es ist das ... ( 3 months ago by irm63)
Es ist das Musikstück von Beethoven, dass ich am meisten liebe, dass mich am meisten bewegt.
Es hat eine Eindringlichkeit, die das triumphierende Strahlen der neunten Symphonie nicht übertreffen kann.
What creativity and ... ( 3 months ago by argudit)
What creativity and simply magnificent. Klauber is simply superb and Beethoven God's incarnation!
Kleiber is one of ... ( 3 months ago by RADAMES1983)
Kleiber is one of my favorit conductors! Anazing.
これからは、いろんなタイプの ... ( 2 months ago by nmyty7)
これからは、いろんなタイプのベートーベンが聞けるようになる気がする。
Is it not a bit ... ( 2 months ago by WAMEDJO)
Is it not a bit risky to even play fast tempo for a conductor that had such a restrainted repertory ? After Celibidache, the man who conducts slow, here's the man that conducts fast !
One of the silliest ... ( 2 months ago by berto41)
One of the silliest comments ever on YouTube. Ever hear a plodding, sloppy, or sickeningly sweet version of a composer's great work? If not, you don't listen to much music, or you don't care about whether a performance does justice to the work being performed. That's why Kleiber's performances of Beethoven are so wonderful. CK IS great because he has the sensibility and the will to bring the orchestra to a point where it is prepared to deliver a great performance of a great work. Basta detto.
My comment was ... ( 2 months ago by berto41)
My comment was directed at the following statement of zofla90 (made about a month ago): "Carlos Kleiber a great man? what does he has to do with it. Is Beethoven's music."
This is so ... ( 2 months ago by Tompa4321)
This is so wonderful.
God in music, God ... ( 2 months ago by Chiollodario)
God in music, God in Kleiber!
My computer's ... ( 2 months ago by 92calamity92)
My computer's speakers are weird, I had to set everything to max before I could here the beginning, and I still missed bits.
But I agree with almost everyone else. Kleiber is an awesome conductor, though I found it hard to pinpoint where the beat was in some areas. (Not so much in this movement, but in the last).
And Beethoven truly was a genious, if a little ahead of his time.
So wrong. Diedrich ... ( 2 months ago by boxers7x5)
So wrong. Diedrich Nikolaus Winkel invented the first practical/modern metronome in 1814, although devices for that purpose go back to the late 1600's. Johann Nepomuk Mälzel took a patent out and basically stole the invention from Winkel in 1816. Beethoven knew Mälzel, and thought the "invention" he was pushing was quite silly at first, and poked fun at him in a vocal canon, which later became the material for the 2nd movement of the 8th symphony.
Kleiber was an ... ( 1 month ago by pumamama9)
Kleiber was an incredible conductor, who could communicate unlike anyone I've ever seen. This is among the greatest musical achievements I know of.
Superlatives are just not enough here....
what a stupid ... ( 1 month ago by yjmpgkl)
what a stupid comment, really, you are stupid, please shut up
How did you know ... ( 1 month ago by ianislios)
How did you know about the orchestra and the hall? Have you watched it in Amsterdam?
The Concertgebouw ... ( 1 month ago by psvvac2)
The Concertgebouw is one of the nicest hall i ever saw in my entire life. And Kleiber was a god for me!
Such a shame he died...Those person should be immortal!
AMAZING !!! ... ( 1 month ago by DynVec)
AMAZING !!! AMAZING !!! AMAZING !!!
Hear! Hear! This is ... ( 1 month ago by maidestone)
Hear! Hear! This is indeed DIVINE!
Hitlercakes! lol. ( 2 weeks ago by ghostofdayinperson)
Hitlercakes! lol.


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