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EU leaders have decided to delay talks with Russia on a new agreement about strategic co-operation. At an extraordinary summit in Brussels, the leaders condemned Russia's actions in the Caucasus, but promised to maintain contacts with Moscow and continue existing ties.




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Corporate Socialism ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
Corporate Socialism: the privatization of profit and the socialization of risks and misconduct, i.e., socialism for the rich.
FACT-Cheney brokered no-bid deals that allowed Halliburton to steal billions of dollars from American taxpayers.
FACT-Cheney used his office stationary to have forged documents drafted to justify an illegal war in Iraq.
FACT-Cheney calls Saakashvili a friend and gave him the green light to aggressively attack South Ossetia.
Corporate socialism ... ( 3 months ago by 1BuckeyeNation)
Corporate socialism is a BUZZ word like Neo-con. Means nothing and is a way of describing something without actually saying anything. I don't like words that are meant to draw ire without actually saying what it is that is really going on.
I agree with your first 2 facts as they are FACTS. Your last fact is an assumption and is not a FACT!
All the evidence shows that Russia has been building up to attack Georgia over the last year.
Who the hell is ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
Who the hell is defending Russian actions?
I think you're in denial. You see corruption in your self-perceived enemies but fail to notice such in your own backyard.
FYI America is turning over Iraq to the Iraqis and I agree this will not be allowed to continue.
Smart ass or dumb ass, none of us get a say in how to turn this around (we don't own significant Class A shares of the multinationals, as cynical as this seems).
With nearly 100,000 ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
With nearly 100,000 Iraqis, many of them former insurgents, on the American payroll, saying the Iraqis are taking control is a semantic ploy. Anbar (the cradle of the Sunni insurgency) is the eleventh province to be transferred to Iraqi security responsibility, but Shiite dominated leaders will have plenty to contend with given the predominately Sunni populace (Sahwa/Awakenings councils). Time will tell if the Americans will have to play cop again (before Sunnis get fresh provincial elections).
If you want to talk ... ( 3 months ago by 1BuckeyeNation)
If you want to talk about American politics I will be happy to oblige but lets stay focused on one thing at a time. I make a comment about Russia and you reply about Russia. You make a comment about America and I will reply on America. Lets not mix the subjects as no one will gain anything. I understand that things are similar and even related but one thing at a time please.
Corporate Socialism ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
Corporate Socialism: the privatization of profit and the socialization of risks and misconduct, i.e., socialism for the rich. This means we pay for the greed of the wolves shepherding the flocks (tis a slick trick).
Saakashvili would never dare take any actions with American military personnel on his soil with approval (that's a FACT).
All the evidence shows that Russia has been waiting for Georgia to attack (and the fool Saakashvili did just that).
To deny the ... ( 3 months ago by 1BuckeyeNation)
To deny the progress is not productive. I agree that only time will tell but Iraq seems to be heading in a good overall direction. One third of American casualties came in Al Anbar. The fact that Americans no longer have to govern this region is a good thing.
Saakashvili would ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
Saakashvili would never dare take any actions with American military personnel on his soil WITHOUT approval (that was a typo).
I think that ... ( 3 months ago by 1BuckeyeNation)
I think that Saakasvili took some peoples statements as meaning that America had Georgias back if Russia attacked. He was wrong. We have his back but way back if you know what I mean. That Americans passport means nothing if that is what your getting at.
Less killing in ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
Less killing in Iraq (or anywhere) is a good thing. Having said as much, rationalizing American criminal occupation in Iraq by arguing that they will be gone one day and then beating the emotional drums of war over Russian troops in South Ossetia is something of a double standard. Were America less hypocritical, most reasonable peoples on this planet would lend a sympathetic ear to American officials. As it stands, things now come down to advocating the lesser of 2 evils (so to speak).
The passport was, ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
The passport was, most likely, a plant. It was found (or stolen, or manufactured); propaganda (like the passport found at the WTC ruins, but that's another topic far removed from this episode). A nice clean piece of evidence for the media. No argument here.
Mr. Saakashvili ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
Mr. Saakashvili studied law at Kiev University and the International Institute of Human Rights before earning his LLM from Columbia Law School . His command of the English language is impressive. In short, he's no dummy. That he misunderstood anything is questionable. It almost appears as if he were chosen for the CIA Rose Revolution, and now, set-up as a fool who is portrayed as a hothead. Regardless, he didn't order the South Ossetia attack without US military personnel being aware.
If America were to ... ( 3 months ago by 1BuckeyeNation)
If America were to leave Iraq today it would create a devastating situation in the middle east. Iraq would go into civil war mode and Iran would capitalize on the situation(1 evil). While keeping American soldiers in Iraq for another year is a bad thing(2 evil) I don't see a better way of getting Iraq back on its feet(good). America likes to think if you broke it, you fix it. We are pouring a ton of money and resources into doing just that.
Russian troops have ... ( 3 months ago by 1BuckeyeNation)
Russian troops have a right to be in S.Ossetia because they were peace keepers. Russia does not have a right to turn Georgian(Abkhazian, S.Ossetian) citizens into Russian citizens.
I have some more to say on this subject but I will have to get back with you tomorrow and will reply to your other comments.
Buckeye: My ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
Buckeye: My apologies in advance for the semi-lengthy reply (as sound bites won't adequately support my final position).
In the 1990s, ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
In the 1990s, President Clinton embarked upon converting Georgia into an energy corridor for the export of Caspian basin oil and gas to the West in order to bypass Russia (that evolved into the BTC pipeline). It was America (corporate socialist interests) that presided over every stage of the BTC line's development and corporate structuring. It was a case of geopolitics, pure and simple (to enhance Western energy security while diminishing Russia's control over distribution).
Since Washington's ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
Since Washington's Eurasian energy corridor passed near conflict zones (e.g.,Abkhazia and South Ossetia) Mr Clinton transformed the Georgian army into a military proxy of the USofA. The Russians (temporarily weakened by internal strife) watched this in their so-called near abroad and planned countermoves. The issues for both superpowers being National Interests (which Washington sees as anyplace around the globe and dismisses Russia's to within its own borders, a clear double standard).
(Then) President ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
(Then) President Putin re-nationalized many of the Russian companies previously privatized by Yeltsin, e.g., Yukos and Gazprom. Mr Putin then focused on the Caspian Sea basin with the intention of dominating export conduits to Europe and Asia (not to own the resources, the same as the interests of the Anglo-American cartels in Iraq) with precedence already established through agreements with Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan (to ship gas through Russia to Europe via Gazprom).
Thus, the ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
Thus, the geostrategic priority for Moscow became undermining international confidence in Georgia as a reliable corridor for energy distribution (all while the EU planned the Nabucco pipeline to reduce Europe's reliance on Russia). This is what the crisis in Georgia was/is about. Georgia's geostrategic importance is primarily about the US/EU-Russian struggle over the distribution of Caspian energy. Cheney/Bush armed/trained the Georgian military/special forces to protect the new pipelines.
Unfortunately, Mr ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
Unfortunately, Mr Saakashvili had more ambitious plans (the CIA sponsored politician is simply a useful pawn in the anti-Russian agenda being played out). And then Mr Putin set his trap by taunting Georgia into invading South Ossetia (namely through allowing militia types to antagonize villages on the edges of the territories) and allowing Saakashvili to reveal himself to be an unreliable partner (hothead) to the Western pipeline enthusiasts who sought reasonable stability in the region.
The Western ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
The Western geopolitical prize (the Eurasian energy corridor) suddenly became vulnerable (and the rage in Washington, London, Paris, Berlin, Warsaw, et cetera, expressed the frustrated reality, that is, the BTC and South Caucasus gas pipelines are ever so close, even too close to rather pissed Russia). The primary media spin in the West (and East) is about genocide, territorial integrity, and so forth.
Given the double ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
Given the double standards of the American position (as in Iraqi invasion and occupation over hydrocarbon resource access, not Iraqi liberation), both sides make their cases in regard to Georgia. In short, they each have their stories, and they're sticking to them. The real issue is energy distribution expressed in terms of National Interests on the global stage.
This West-East ... ( 3 months ago by wyrd24)
This West-East struggle has no (sane) military solution. Only dialogue will broker a deal that will eventually have to ensure a fair and equitable split of distribution rights and corporate profits. Unfortunately, the American Corporate Socialists have yet to display a willingness to cooperate fairly (to share, in Eurasia, or Iraq). From their (irrational) vantage, Russia is not a serious partner.
Array ( 2 months ago by mima11vlad)
to EU
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